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Packet Radio Digest - Volume 91, Number 98


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Subject: Packet-Radio Digest V91 #98
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Packet-Radio Digest Mon, 22 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 98

Today's Topics:

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Date: 21 Apr 91 14:26:37 GMT
From: swrinde!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.[email protected]
To: [email protected]

References <[email protected]>, <1991Apr16.170506.14041@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, <[email protected]>
Reply-To : [email protected] (Gary Coffman)
Subject : Re: Packet buzzwords

In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Greg Bullough) writes:article <1991Apr16.170506.14041@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> [email protected] (William R. Hester) write:>
>>
>>Does anyone know of a good packet handbook that fills in the gap between
>>beginner and packet technoid level?
>>
>>...and please post your responses to the original questions above to this
>>group...I'm sure there are others who have wandered into packet radio and
>>want to learn more...but are not up to the 56KBaud stuff yet! :-).
>
>I have for a few years thought that with packet, amateur radio has
>truly come of age. Up to now, for almost every mode and method, their
>used to be an abundance and redundance of documentation at all levels.
>
>For the "new digital modes," I have noticed that it's a little, but
>not much, better than what one has come to expect in UNIX-biz;
>somebody grunts "read the man() page."
>
>Greg

Well I think the keyword here is "new". I imagine that when CW was
new there were few authoritative manuals for generating the newfangled
continous waves either. And certainly the "spark forever" boys wouldn't
want to talk about it.

Packet really is new to the amateur world. Many of the operating techniques
and hardware standards of two years ago are now obsolete. Things are
changing too fast for an authoritative book to be meaningful. It would
be largely obsolete before it saw print.

The best sources of information are local groups and forums like this
one. There is as yet no national or international standard way of
doing everything with packet. Each local area is somewhat unique in
the way it sets up LANS, MANS, WANS, how it handles store and forward
traffic, what methods it uses for digital voice, what bands are used
for digital video, etc. With Netrom, Rose, Texnet, IP switched networks,
and plain old AX25 link level digipeating going on, often at the same
time in the same area, packet is still a fun *experimental* zoo. By
the time authoritive manuals and standards emerge, it will be time to
move on to something more interesting.

If you want to know how to setup a functioning distributed switched
56kb MAN, ask me. If you want to know about low speed simplex ROSE
links, ask someone else, I don't have a clue. In addition, what I
could tell you about 56kb MANs would probably differ dramatically
from the answers you would get from the Ottawa crowd who are going
in a somewhat different direction. The BBS crowd's view of packet
is totally different from those of us working on distributed
computing. The HF crowd is going in yet another, more traditional,
DXing and traffic handling direction. Packet Cluster folks are in
yet another world of DX spotting nets that happen to use packet
radio. Others, the spark forever crowd, are stuck in the obsolete
1200 baud digipeater world of keyboard chats. These last are the
only ones with a manual.

Rather than grunting "read the manual" most of us are at the "read
the source code, there is no manual" stage.

Gary KE4ZV

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