Physical Characteristics of the Black Helicopters
by Ted
Physical characteristics of the black Choppers:
Lets beat this dead horse one more time. - Are those of you that saw
the choppers 100% sure that they were solid black.? The standard
European One paint job can look black from a distance. Also the
dark gray-blue paint job on navy choppers could appear to be much
darker than it really is under certain lighting conditions. I want to
hear from others that saw these choppers to confirm that they are
really black. According to Chris, the one he saw was a charcoal
black. To me this would indicate a flat black, military style paint
job. Another point about color; by law no aircraft can be painted
brighter than semi-gloss, due to glare. Virtually all DEA and other
federal law enforcement aircraft are painted in semi-gloss. This is
due to the fact that many are leased from private companies. A flat
paint job would be further indication of a military connection.
Markings - You say that they were unmarked. But many
experimental aircraft have their markings in a dark red color. From
a distance the red is very difficult to see. Remember the SR-71, it
had red markings, and from a distance they were very hard to
notice. Another thing to keep in mind is that virtually all current
military aircraft have low visibility paint schemes. This includes
the markings as well. Another point to consider; by law all aircraft
must have some markings such as NCC-879045. Military aircraft
do not have to comply to this, but federal law enforcement does.
Also by law all aircraft must have some lights running while in the
air. Military aircraft have to comply with this except in time of
war. Most choppers have a large red light under the center of the
belly of the aircraft. Did any of you notice any lights?
Did the Chopper have skids or retractable wheels? Not many
military choppers have retractable gear.
Chris mentioned there was hardly any noise when he saw the
chopper. The more blades a chopper has the less rotor noise there
is. Did anyone notice the number of blades, or can confirm the
noise level.
Did anyone notice a lot of heat coming off the rear of the chopper
or could tell how many engines?
Were there any pylons, drop-tanks or in-flight refueling booms on
the chopper. Anyone notice a floodlight or a lot of aerials??
Someone mentioned that they might be private. Many news
services and cops use Hughes 500 Defenders, and Bell 206A Jet
Rangers. Both are small and relatively inexpensive to operate, as
far as helicopters go. One way to find out if they are private would
be to call the local general aviation airports and ask if anyone has a
black chopper for rent. Also check with the local cops, both of the
choppers are popular with police, DEA etc..
Chris also mentioned that he has to put up with a lot of noise from
MacDill. An easy way to find out if you are under a military flight
path is to go to a local general aviation airport and ask for a
sectional map. They are about $5.00. Military flight paths are the
gray lines. They are suppose to change every 90 days. From your
E-mail I get the impression that the noise has been around for
longer than 90 days. If this the case you are probably under the
glide path to MacDill. As for the Coast Guard; I don't know if
they use military flight paths or have to change every 90 days.
Sectional charts will come up later.
Now I need some info from you locals about the law enforcement
community in your area. It could be very possible that these black
choppers are part of the DEA or ATF. According to the news
Florida is a war zone with copious quantities of drugs flowing
around and a large law enforcement presence to combat it. What I
would like to know is: do the local police \ sheriff depts. have
choppers for surveillance? Is there a FBI, DEA, ATF task-force
stationed in the area. Are these units known to conduct flight ops?
What is gut reaction to the possibility that these black choppers are
federal law enforcement?
As I mentioned in an earlier E-mail to Chris there is a good
possibility that what you are seeing are aircraft that belong to a
Special Operations unit. The following is part of an earlier E-mail:
Now if the chopper was actually painted black this would indicate
that it is part of a Spec Op's unit. The US Air Force Special
Operations Command has several choppers in its inventory, and
includes Army choppers such as the Apache. Your typical Special
Operations Wing (SOW) consists of the following choppers: MH-
53J Pave Low (Green Giants CH-53E's) MH-60G Pave Hawks
(Blackhawks). There are also AH-64 Apaches, and Cobra Gunships
along with AC-130's.
If you don't know what type of chopper you saw, there are
probably plenty of books at your local library that could help you
figure it out. Please note that Blackhawks used for Spec Op's have
an in-flight refueling probe and two large drop tanks on pylons.
They will look different from standard Blackhawks in the books.
Officially there are no SOW units assigned to MacDill, but this
does not mean much. If I remember correctly the air bases in
Florida are assigned to the South West Asian military theater of
operations ( the Middle East). During the Gulf War and previous
fighting with Iranian gun boats SOW units were involved. During
the confrontations with Iran there were many choppers painted
solid black for night OP's. These units operated in conjunction with
black units such as "Seaspray", and "Yellow Fruit" in the waters off
Iran. So it would make sense to have these units operating out of
an air base assigned to the Middle East.
End old stuff.
In the mean time I have done some further research into the
possibility of a SOW connection and found one. Since 1988 all
Special Operation forces have been under a unified command
structure based at (big surprise here) MacDill AFB. The command
structure is called the US Special Operations Command (USSOC)
They are in charge of all units in all branches and directs the
operations in all military theaters of operations.
But it gets better. I don't know if you locals have ever heard of
Hurlburt Field. It took some digging to find anything about it. I
would be interested to know what you know about it. Have you
ever heard of it?? Is it a closed base or can you go on it?? Hurlburt
Field is home to a USAF unconventional warfare unit. The unit is
called the 1st Special Operations Wing. This units directs the
Special operations Squadrons (SOS). These units are trained to fly
special warfare units behind enemy lines and supply them, and
extract them when the time comes. Extraction indicates CH-53's
most likely. Three of these units are based in the USA, one in the
following: Philippines, UK, Germany. If you get a sectional chart
it would be interesting to see if Hurlburt field is a MOWA or a
restricted airspace. This could tell a lot about what goes on there.
The 3rd Ranger Company of the 75th Ranger Regiment also
conducts training in the Florida swamps . Mainly hit and run
operations from boats large enough to carry one A-Team. 75th
Ranger was the unit that lost 18 men in Somalia. Men from the 1st
SOW take part in amphibious training in the Everglades swamps.
I'm going to make a guess as to what you have been seeing. I don't
put much faith in this guess and admit it could be totally wrong.
But based on what I read, what you are probably seeing a Bell OH-
58 Kiowa. This is the military version of the Jet Ranger. This
would explain the fact that some think it is a private chopper. The
Kiowa is a small chopper used for observation and spotting duties.
They often work in conjunction with the MH-53J Pave Low (Green
Giants CH-53E's) MH-60G Pave Hawks (Blackhawks) on special
Ops. Some of you mentioned that the choppers were flying very
low over populated areas. A chopper as small as a Kiowa would
not cause much noise or rotor wash as a blackhawk or a Green
Giant. If a Green Giant had flown over you would know it, believe
me. Another point in favor of the Kiowa is the fact that during
confrontations with Iranian gun boats Kiowas were fitted with
special noise damping equipment and power night-vision
equipment. It was reported that they could get close enough to I
ranian fisherman ,to count the number of fish caught in their nets as
they reeled them in, and yet remain undetected. The groups
running that operation were the "Seaspray", and "Yellow Fruit"
units mentioned earlier. These were CIA Spec Ops units, not
military. Maybe this has something to do with the SS police some
of you mentioned.
As for why they are flying around, who knows. I do know that
groups like the Rangers and other Special Warfare units often get
to evaluate new toys. It could be possible they were trying out
some new surveillance equipment. I know of one member of a
Special Warfare group that was personally involved it the testing of
a new type of crowd control devise. In was the late 1960's and
there were several student riots in France. The French govt. had a
developed a new crowd control devise that used a ultra-sonic sound
wave to give rioters a headache with the hopes that they would
leave. For some reason the devise was tested at Fort Bragg NC.
Any of you got a real bad headache ?? Just kidding. It could be
possible that a foreign govt. has developed a crowd control devise
and wants us to test it. That might explain why these choppers are
seen over populated areas.
Anyone who has seen these black choppers please send an E-mail.
The more facts that are presented the easier it will be to figure out
what is going on.
Ted
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