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Some background on the Nazi method of converting c




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August 16, 1990

Annotated from an article in the
Dallas Morning News on Tuesday, September 4, 1990
contributed by Ron Barker

Scientists seek to study Nazi paper.

Texas A&M researchers interested in coal-to-gasoline process.
Associated Press

COLLEGE STATION, Texas --

Texas A&M University researchers want to resume the study of
Nazi documents about producing gasoline from coal - a process that
they say may alleviate the United States' dependency on foreign oil.

More than 300 rolls of microfilmed documents dealing with the
process are stored in the university's library, but few have been
translated or read.

The documents detail Germany's research and development of 25
synthetic fuel plants from 1936 through 1945. The plants provided 90
percent of the Nazis' aviation fuel and 68 percent of the rest of
its energy needs, the records show.

Vangard Note...

After the war, the records were placed under a 30 year
moratorium from the public to prevent the sudden release of radical
technology which might disrupt American businesses.
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Texas A&M researchers began gathering and scrutinizing the
documents for practical application in 1975, but the project was
abandoned five years later.

Arnold Krammer, an A&M history professor, told the `Houston
Chronicle' that the documents also record the U.S. government's
short-lived synthetic fuel program.

Two U.S. plants, built in Louisiana, Mo., using Nazi designs
and technology, turned out 200 to 400 barrels of gasoline daily for
as little as 1.6 cents per gallon from 1949 to 1953, according to
U.S. Bureau of Mines records.

That project was shut down by President Eisenhower's
administration, Mr. Krammer, 49, said. "Without question, it was due
to lobbying by oil companies who didn't want the competition," he
said.

Mr. Krammer and other A&M researchers tracked down Nazi Germany

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war documents in diverse locations that included basements in West
Virginia, the Imperial Museum in London, the National Archives and
the Library of Congress in Washington and German depositories.

Most of the documents were captured and stored after the Allied
victory over the Nazis in 1945. Many of the crates had been stored,
unopened, since the war.

As a result, Mr. Krammer said, Texas A&M is the only
institution with most of the Nazi and U.S. secrets to synthetic
fuels.

Mr. Krammer said he hopes the project will obtain funding to
hire a research team to read, translate and computer index the
documents. He estimated the project would take five years to
complete at a cost of about $200,000 annually.

The chemical process for turning coal into gasoline is known to
about every chemistry graduate student, he said. But it generally
has been considered uneconomical.

He said, however, that Nazi German research might unlock the
keys to making the process cheaper than pumping petroleum.

"It is the details that we have in these documents, details of
where the Germans went wrong, and what worked and what did not
work," he said.

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Additional Vangard notes

Chuck Henderson said he heard a local radio broadcast which was
about the current gas/oil crisis and what was known about
alternative fuels.

A caller from Fort Worth said he had access to the Nazi documents
back in 1957 and had photocopied the them for his own use. He also
claimed that he had successfully converted coal into gasoline at a
cost of 10 cents per gallon.

The man is George Vestal at (817) 497-4208. I called him the
next day but he was out. He later returned my call and sounded
slightly manic as if he was hyper stimulated or overly excited. I
asked him about the radio talk show and what he had. He told me he
had photocopied ALL THE NAZI DOCUMENTS in 1975 and had figured out
how to convert the coal to gasoline.

I then asked him if he had found any information relating to
electrical or flying machines and he said, "Do you mean
electromagnetic flying machines, yea, I have all that stuff."

I told him of my particular interest in the Kugelblitz and that
we could exchange information if he was interested. He said no way,
he was going to keep everything he had. I asked him, "Well, what
do you plan to do with it?" to which he replied, "If I can't get
something out of it, I'll just keep it to myself." This included
the coal to gas papers and processes.

This information was passed around to various KeelyNet and

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Vangard Associates who contributed additional information. A friend
has a friend who knows Arnold Krammer of A&M very well. He had him
ask Mr. Kramer about the papers.

Krammer said that the only papers which were publicly available
in 1975 were the coal to gas papers and not many people had access
to them at the time. As to claims that other information had been
copied, he said impossible, as the crates had not even been opened
TO THIS DATE. This was before the above article was published.

So, as far as I am concerned, Mr. Vestal might have some papers
but not the advanced documents which we are interested in.

To our knowledge, the papers are under the second 30 year
moraturium and not available to the public until 2005.

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If you have comments or other information relating to such topics as
this paper covers, please upload to KeelyNet or send to the Vangard
Sciences address as listed on the first page. Thank you for your
consideration, interest and support.

Jerry W. Decker.........Ron Barker...........Chuck Henderson
Vangard Sciences/KeelyNet

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