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Information about the Ben Obina case
* The Trumpet Blows A Sour Note.
In reply to Ben Obina's "THE LAST TRUMPET," The Story Of One Young
Man's Desperate Struggle To Believe The Impossible, And Succeeds.
It has been observed that one may go to any Fundamentalist
Christian Revival meeting where "exorcisms" are being performed,
and someone will vomit a demon into a paper bag if you ask them to
(and often when you ask them not to). There's great power (in
covertly manipulating others) from believing that the devil is out
to get one, personally. Think of all the lively conversations one
could have with others, with one the center of attention, as one
relates how the devil caused one to do horrible things like
(horrors!) masturbate, steal, or work on Sundays. ["Confrontations
With The DEVIL," by Robert W. Pelton, Pocket Books, 1979, pp.
126-127]
It has also been observed that one may go to any UFO convention
and someone will relate, under hypnosis, how they were abducted
and implanted and screwed and poked and peeked and sampled. Try
to get them to shut up. Just try, and see if they will. Good
luck. ["Flim-Flam," by James Randi, Prometheus Books, 1987, pp.
71-92]
It is important to remember that one's religion must be held
inviolate. One must be allowed to believe and practice religious
forms of expression freely and without intervention, provided that
such practices do not harm others. What's a little vomit between
True Believers, after all? As long as they use a bag, and I don't
have to clean up after them, fine!
It is also important to realize that, real or not, the
Abduction Phenomena is valid, and real to those who have
experienced them. As such experiences cause the individual a
great deal of mental anguish in many cases, and a great deal of
income in others, one should not scoff at the individuals who
relate abduction stories. To scoff is paramount to laughing at
the pain of hunger or loneliness. What's a few tears between
abducted support group members, after all? As long as every
member benefits and is not harmed, fine!
But what about the True Believer and the Abducted who has made
it one's calling to inform us how little we know about life, and
that they are there to help us? Both have said that the "common
man" (i.e. you and I) are not enlightened enough to understand.
Consider the following:
". . already I have been referred to as a
'crackpot' and also have been ridiculed. But I
assure you[,] people will 'definitely'
understand in time, their minds aren't yet
trained to handle this sort of information."
This tells us flat out that we are not capable of understanding
the abduction phenomena, as our minds are not developed for
(presumably) rational thought or observation. This is a ploy that
religionist hysterics have used for 5,000 years, telling us that
only through their intervention will we be able to understand the
improbable, impossible, and mysterious. Sadly, millions buy into
this. I do not.
"U.F.O's are definitely real, and are here
for a purpose."
Says who? We were told before hand that we are not able to
understand, so therefore we must not question what was to follow!
It was just left for us to believe, without proof or
qualifications.
"The occupants are the 'guardians' of
humanity. The occasional appearances of these
'cosmic missionaries' is living proof that we
are not alone in the universe. Throughout time
and history they have kept a 'watchful' eye and
have been always interested in the affairs of
man. Sadly though, their existence has been
concealed, ignored and ridiculed. It is only
just recently that they have been alarmed by
the dangerous turn of events on earth."
I can no more argue against humanity requiring "guardians" that I
can argue that falling trees are soundless if unobserved. We are
told that "living proof" is offered us, but alas, I guess I'm just
not mentally developed enough, as I think the above quote is pure
hog-slop. Where were these "guardians" when we butchered
fifty-million humans, almost one million a year, during the second
world war? Was this horror below the "guardians" intervention
level? Or is it my poorly developed brain that assumes that
fifty-million murders is small potatoes, cosmically speaking?
Several reasons are given us as to why these "guardians" have
come now, and not in the past.
"we are not taking care of ourselves
enviromentally and spiritually."
I submit that if we take care of our environment, a great many
of our problems will be eased. Why throw "spirituality" into
the pot? If one does, the question then becomes: "WHO'S
spirituality did you have in mind for us to emulate?" This ties
in with the "you aren't capable of understanding so I'll think for
you" crap.
"they are dissatisfied with contemporary
social and economic injustices."
Who has NOT been, masses speaking, over the past 5,000 years?
"religion has been twisted and turned into
fanaticism."
Such as equating UFOs to "guardians," perhaps?
As the guardians of mankind, they can only
'condemn' our actions, but they realize that a
wasted evolution and an inescapable cataclysm
will be the final consequence of our 'inhuman'
behavior.
A hearty "disagree" here. Why is it assumed that the human
race is destined to destruction? Or is this something us lesser
mentality folks can't understand? Civilizations have always come
and gone, and so will the present ones. With better understanding
of our international neighbors, the extinction of the species can
be prevented. It will hardly be easy, but it is by no means
definite that we will destroy ourselves.
And now the waste material really hits the ventilation duct.
"What does this all mean? As prophesied in
the Bible, "On judgement day, Christ will
descend from the heavens in a cloud with great
power and glory, and will reveal himself to all
the tribes of the earth." Luke 21:28. Also
foreseen is the fateful course we are presently
taking, "The heavens shall pass away with a
great noise, the elements shall melt with a
fervent heat, and the earth, and also the works
therein shall be burned up." Peter 3:10-14.
In the Old Testament there are 30 references to
Christ's first coming. In the New Testament
there are 50 specific references to Christ's
'second' coming. I also stress that the earth
is not following a path towards complete
annihilation, as in 'blowing itself to pieces'.
Our planet 'will' stay intact, and it will
enter a 'new age', a 'transition' for all that
is left.
The people who gave us the Christ myths are STILL waiting for
the "first coming," but Mr. Obina would have us believe it has
come and gone already. Kabalists generally agree that the Christ
will come some time around 2200-2300 ce, coincidently at the same
time the "Aquarian Age" roughly starts. Why throw Messiah myths
into the UFO picture? What is served by using allegory to support
one's reality-structure?
"Our planet's destiny can only be decided by
mankind's actions."
This is self-evident. It also makes one wonder, though, since
this is the case, where do the "guardians" come into the picture?!
If our destiny is for us to decide, who needs "guardians?"
"I have read many versions of the
catastrophic events leading up to judgement
day, and also what will actually 'happen' on
judgement day. Everything from a nuclear war,
to an axis-shift, to a mass suicide by those
who cannot accept the facts. Do we really know
the truth?.. only 'they' know."
This supposes that "judgment day" is a fact, and not allegory
as it was originally meant to be. It also supposes that what has
been written about future events will happen, which has never in
history been demonstrated. The massive volumes written about the
end of the world are usually considered to be active meditations
(like various Midrashim as Alpha Beta Ben Sira), and were not
meant to be taken as attempts at fortune-telling.
"In the near future, an important event that
no human mind should be uninformed about will
take place. It will come unexpectedly at a
time of great need. There will be no need to
ask 'why' or 'how' because all questions will
be answered and all doubts will be laid to
rest. Look forward to this event, and do not
fear it, because soon 'all' will awaken and
realize that 'fiction' will become 'fact'."
Unfortunately, there are also those human minds that are very
disinformed. Ben Obina tells us that no human minds should be
uninformed about what WILL take place. Has there ever been a time
where a human mind has been so informed about future events that
can still go in any of many directions?!
Fiction has often become fact, but hardly all!
Those who do not understand do not want to
know. The truth is disturbing and will make
one feel skeptical, but if understood with an
open mind. it can and 'must' be accepted. When
the time comes, my purpose is to 'assist' and
to let the people know and understand. I am
just one of the many thousands around the world
who have been randomly selected to slowly
prepare the people and to gradually spread the
message. We are all part of a worldwide
program of 'psychological conditioning' before,
and when this moment arrives.
I do not understand, and I very much want to know. What does
this do to Mr. Obina's theory? Or is this more "you're too
stupid to understand" crap?
"Space beings are the guardians of humanity.
They are the messengers of the Ultimate
Creator."
Human beings are the guardians of humanity. We are the
messengers of the Ultimate Creator, being one of Her creations.
"Traces of the beings 'basic message' can be
found in the Bible passages relating to
judgement day, despite the fact they are
written in vague and symbolic terms. Notice
how the people are to be "judged". Notice how
the believers of God's word are to be "raised
from the dead". Notice what is meant when the
Bible mentions the "home of the saved". Is it
purely coincidental that most contactees have
similar thoughts of 'permanent relocation' and
a different earth within the next 10 years? In
reference to judgement day, the Bible often
"implies" the word "rapture". The actual word
is not found in the Bible because sometimes
Christians have a tendency to toss out
misunderstood words which have no meaning to
the Non-Christian. I suggest that you look up
the word in the dictionary, you will be
astonished at it's meaning and how it ties in
with the beings 'basic message'."
I am often astonished how one will use a hammer to drive in
screws-- a job that the hammer was not made to do. Why use the
Bible to drive mythological screws into the real world?
"If you are shaking your head over this
right now, please remember how many
'impossibles' you have said in your lifetime.
Or how many 'impossibles' men throughout the
ages have said to many things God has revealed
through His spokesman. And yet they were
possible, because nothing is 'impossible' for
God."
God has yet to reveal anything through "spokesmen." All that's
required to know Her is to look around. When someone opens his
mouth and spews out "God told me to tell you. . . ." is when the
impossible is forced into the mold of the irrationality.
"I could tell you how their ships travel
through space; how they tie in with religion
and the Bible; how they tie in with the
destruction of previous civilizations that once
flourished on earth; how they tie in with
ancient mythology etc., etc. .. but I won't. I
already revealed to you what one 'only' need to
know.. how they will influence the future.
Those questions and others will be definitely
answered very soon, highly likely within our
own lifetime."
I have absolutely no doubts that Mr. Obina can!
"Whether this so-called catastrophe is
physical, natural or spiritual, I know 2 things
for certain. An event of great importance to
mankind will occur prior to judgement day. An
event that will enlighten us about the nature
of our existence. An event that will signify
that mankind is entering a 'new age', a
'transition', .. perhaps the end."
Ah, a qualifier! Now when the alleged catastrophe fails to
materialize, Mr. Obina can claim it happened on some astral
plane.
"'In a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, at
the last trumpet; for the last trumpet will
sound, and the dead will be raised
imperishable, and we shall all be changed.' I
Corinthians 15:52 NASB."
"The world of fools has such a store / that he who would not
see an ass / must bide at home, and boot his door, / and break his
looking glass." La Monnaye
Which of the two quotes about, Mr. Obina's or mine, is true?
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