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Article 1074 (90 more) in alt.cyberpunk (no posting):
Subject: Re: WWIV - Paperplanes and duct tape
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (jonathan)
Date: 28 Jan 91 05:42:02 GMT
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Lines: 18
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Trevor Smith) writes:
>
> I know that the Gulf War is the hot topic eevverywhere right now but
>anybody got some thing new to say - like twisted versions of tech. from out of
>"Scientific American" or even "Popular Mechanic".
A friend of mine was talking about an air2air missile that's being
discussed in design circles. After being fired, the missile divides
into 5 parts, each containing targeting equipment and a radio. Those
5 parts then talk to each other, to determine exactly how to hit the
target(s). If one missile loses it's track, the other 4 can tell it
where to go. Almost sounds like the bullets from "Roger Rabbit," eh?
--MORE--(95%)jonathan
--
jonathan drummey
[email protected]
End of article 1074 (of 1164)--what next? [npq] Article 1075 (89 more) in alt.cyberpunk (no posting)t: Re: Ordinary Life in the 21st Century
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jeremy Frank)
Date: 28 Jan 91 19:44:01 GMT
Followup-To: Kelp and Potatoes posting
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Summary: Tailored Food Stuff!
Lines: 22
Someday I'm gonna learn how to include files with this silly version of news...
The posting re cross-breeding kelp and potatoes to give people a tasty yet
healthy legume reminded me of a Bruce Sterling book, "Islands in the Net." In
this book, a common bacterium was cultured as a food substitute. The stuff
was pretty tasteless goo to begin with, but "condiments" were developed to
make it taste better. One of the major characters was a "non-health food
nut", implying that this stuff was better for you due to lack of pesticides
and the like.
Then on the other side of the spectrum, Norman Spinrad (author of "Little
Heroes" and "Other Americas, among others) postulates the existence of
something called "kibble". Cheap to produce, tastes like wet cardboard, but
it keeps you alive. In Spinrad's universe of "Little Heroes" kibble is
dispensed for free in the war zones of New York, allowing the "streeties"
to survive even without a job. Sadly, Spinrad didn't say where kibble came
from...
Jeremy Frank
HMC
"Bedbugs to the People! Liberate yourself from Official Reality!"
End of article 1075 (of 1164)--what next? [npq] Article 1076 (88 more) in alt.cyberpunk (no posting)t: The Thorsonian Future (was Ordinary Life in the 21st Century)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Steve Connelly)
Date: 28 Jan 91 20:41:22 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (Steve Connelly)
Sender: [email protected]
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected] l.EDU>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Boston University
Lines: 45
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mark Robert Thorson)
writes about:
> ... Basic English, the language of 850 carefully selected English words
> invented by C. K. Ogden of Cambridge University in the 1920's. Anything you
> can say in Standard English can also be said in Basic....
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Trouble)
troubles over the fate of poets in the future:
|> ... poets. What would be the point of such creatures existing in a world
|> where every word has one precise definition, where there is no need for
--MORE--(40%)|> subtle shadings of meaning, where there is no "soul" to the language?
Poetry in the utopia of 850-word Basic English is not an issue since
"poem", "poet", and "poetry" are not among the 850 words. Poets will sound
like raving lunatics possessed by demons, and they will be burned at the stake.
Or poets will simply sound like they're speaking a foreign language, in which
case they'll still be burned at the stake because in the future there is no
fuzzy logic.
As C. K. Ogden stated in his seminal work on Basic English:
Standard English bad. Basic Good.
C. K. Ogden good. William F. Buckley bad.
Buckley bad. Crush Buckley. Crush.
Many words in Standard English were eliminated by Ogden on the grounds
of immorality. Words referring to sex and the plumbing term `ball cock' were
purged. However, sex could still be discussed via the following syntactic
mechanism: if the target noun of an unqualified indefinite pronoun is not
specified, then the target noun is sex.
"Why don't we do it in the road." Why don't we do WHAT in the road?,
you ask. Because the pronoun `it' is unqualified, `it' refers to sex.
--MORE--(80%) "All I want is a little food, a little drink, and a little every so
often." A little what every so often? A little sex every so often.
Repeat after me:
"Are you getting any?" Are you getting any what? Are you getting
any sex.
"Does she put out?" Does she put out what? Does she put out sex.
"Well?" Well, what? Well, do you want to have sex with me.
As a result of this syntactic mechanism, all statements concern sex
unless otherwise specified.
Finally, in 850-word Basic English, all books are entitled "ibid" to
make footnoting easier.
End of article 1076 (of 1164)--what next? [npq] Article 1077 (87 more) in alt.cyberpunk (no posting)t: Twin Peaks = Cyberpunk?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Devin Davidson)
Date: 28 Jan 91 04:38:35 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (newsout1.26)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/97 - Trash City II, Saskatoon Sask
Lines: 15
I'm what you would classify an avid peaker and as i watch the show the
question keeps ringing through my head, is twin Peaks strange and bizarre
enough to be Cyberpunk? It is definitely not the standard of Cyberpunk set
William Gibson's and many others novels but it is extremely undefinable and
bizarre. Each episode is different than the others. It is filled with Dream
and Psychic Worlds, and powers that go beyond this world. Maybe it's not
the "standard" of cyberpunk but in my book it still qualifies as such.
Know where to run to, know where to hide.
--
Devin Davidson - via FidoNet node 1:140/22
UUCP: ...!herald!weyr!97!Devin.Davidson
Domain: [email protected]
--MORE--(97%)Standard Disclaimers Apply...
End of article 1077 (of 1164)--what next? [npq] Article 1078 (86 more) in alt.cyberpunk (no posting)t: Re: WWIV - Love Weapons
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Stephen James Svoboda)
Date: 28 Jan 91 03:49:07 GMT
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <1991Jan2 [email protected]>
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Lines: 12
I once read an interesting book entitled "The Science in Science Fiction".
For those of you who can't tell the differance between Fantasy and Science
Fiction this books for you. In a section on war, chemical and biological
weapons, it talks about mind altering biological weapons and it refers
to a novel that might have been called "Barefoot in the Head" wherein a
germ is created that produces LSD. I think that LSD deteriorates in
water but you could imagine what would happen if germ agents like that
were placed in the drinking supply. I think that everyone interested in
science fiction should read TSISF. It has several pages about each topic
and it refers to books published which fit that category. It has a
humorous section on impossible ideas.
End of article 1078 (of 1164)--what next? [npq] Article 1079 (85 more) in alt.cyberpunk (no posting)t: Re: Twin Peaks = Cyberpunk?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (David Newton)
Date: 29 Jan 91 20:58:10 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (David Newton)
Sender: [email protected]
References: <[email protected]>
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Lines: 19
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] G (Devin Davidson)+I'm what you would classify an avid peaker and as i watch the show the
+question keeps ringing through my head, is twin Peaks strange and bizarre
+enough to be Cyberpunk? It is definitely not the standard of Cyberpunk set
+William Gibson's and many others novels but it is extremely undefinable and
+bizarre. Each episode is different than the others. It is filled with Dream
+and Psychic Worlds, and powers that go beyond this world. Maybe it's not
+the "standard" of cyberpunk but in my book it still qualifies as such.
This is silly. By this definition, the US government is cyberpunk.
Cyberpunk has to involve technology, punks, etc. sheesh, this is almost
--MORE--(76%)too ludicrous. I'm willing to read more "Life in the 21st Century"
things after this one.
--
David L. Newton | Work: (708) 491-4791 | [email protected] -or-
ILS, Room 327 | Home: (708) 332-2321 | [email protected], but
1890 Maple St. |------------------------| this just is forwarded to the
Evanston, IL 60201 |________________________| top address, so don't bother.
End of article 1079 (of 1164)--what next? [npq] Article 1080 (84 more) in alt.cyberpunk (no posting)t: Re: Brave New World
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Jonathan Burns)
Date: 30 Jan 91 01:21:21 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (Jonathan Burns)
Distribution: alt
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia
Keywords: future from present
Lines: 16
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Steve Connelly)
writes:
> If we are engaged in the Oil War, then what will the next war be? The
> Interest on Marginal Excise Per Unit Conversion Factor War? The Look-and-Feel
> Patent Infringement War? The Penalty Kick War?
In alt.desert-storm, Jim Dyer made mention of the League for Programming
Freedom's March on Lotus, which struck me as the most cyberpunk event I'd
heard of for a while.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--MORE--(71%)Jonathan Burns | Clashing for the warrior, whose strength is not to fight
[email protected] | Clashing for the refugee, on the unarmed road of flight
Computer Science Dept | And for each and every underdog soldier in the night
La Trobe University | We gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing -Dylan
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
End of article 1080 (of 1164)--what next? [npq] Article 1081 (83 more) in alt.cyberpunk (no posting)ups: psu.questions,alt.cyberpunk
Subject: cyberpunk
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (richmond)
Date: 30 Jan 91 02:27:30 GMT
Organization: Penn State University
Lines: 4
what is cyberpunk? I have read a little in the net, but not enough to
get any real understanding. please help.
thanks, max
End of article 1081 (of 1164)--what next? [npq] Article 1082 (82 more) in alt.cyberpunk (no posting)t: Re: Ordinary Life in the 21st Century
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Craig Wilson)
Date: 30 Jan 91 04:29:36 GMT
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected] t.EDU>
Organization: Com Squared Systems, Inc.
Lines: 12
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Jeremy Fr ank) writes:
>Then on the other side of the spectrum, Norman Spinrad (author of "Little
>Heroes" and "Other Americas, among others) postulates the existence of
>something called "kibble". Cheap to produce, tastes like wet cardboard, but
>it keeps you alive. In Spinrad's universe of "Little Heroes" kibble is
>dispensed for free in the war zones of New York, allowing the "streeties"
>to survive even without a job. Sadly, Spinrad didn't say where kibble came
>from...
Read _Make Room, Make Room_ aka _Soylent Green_ by Harry Harrison.
/craig
End of article 1082 (of 1164)--what next? [npq] Article 1083 (81 more) in alt.cyberpunk (no posting)ups: sci.psychology,alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Chaos and the Brain
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Mark Robert Thorson)
Date: 30 Jan 91 06:04:51 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Lines: 60
The current issue of Scientific American has a very
interesting article on a chaotic model of the nervous system.
The most interesting part is a technique developed by
Walter J. Freeman (Jr., I presume) for visualizing EEG
data. Rather than the seemingly random scribblings normally
associated with EEG, this technique produces a highly structured
plot which looks very much like trajectory tracks for objects
in the three-body problem (a well-known chaotic phenomenon).
It seems obvious that Freeman is on the right track. Too bad
the article was so lightweight.
If this tool could be adapted to view the real-time state
of the chaos in the brain, it seems likely to me that this
tool could be used to control those states. It's like the
--MORE--(32%)End of article 1083 (of 1164)--what next? [npq]
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