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Prize Magazine #4
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THE PRIZE
Newsletter of the Watchers Of CIS
MAY, 1959
ISSUE #4: A-MAYING WE WILL GO
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NOTES FROM THE EDITOR'S CAGE
**STOP THE PRESSES!** [And one woman can now die happy :)] After months of
shameless groveling and infant sacrifices to the Sysoply Powers, the Science
Fiction and Fantasy Forum on Compuserve has finally been reorganized to allow
HIGHLANDER our own message section. Henceforth we shall be conducting our
business in Section Twelve, HIGHLANDER. We also have a library all to ourselves,
Library #12, HIGHLANDER. The overlord of our new domain is our own Helva Peters
[71321,502], newly elevated to the full powers and responsibilities of Sysop-
hood; she should now be addressed as "Head Hacker".
The happy news keeps pouring out: HIGHLANDER has been renewed for a third
season. Thank you to all who wrote in support of Our Lad, and a reminder:
continued expressions of our regard may help to keep our collective strength
fresh in the producers' minds.
And of course, by the time you read this, a good many of us will already be
seeing the first of the remaining new episodes of season two. Yes, sir, it's
been a good week all around...
As regards THE PRIZE... Well, we have managed to keep our heads for a fourth
month. The Editor is pleased to announce that growth continues apace: we have
suckered -- ah, negotiated a distribution scheme for future issues of THE PRIZE
with Karen Cusimano. She will henceforth be facilitating them into the greedy
little paws of her immediate circle of contacts with Our blessing. Remember,
folks, CIS have no objection to circulation by way of E-mail and photocopies.
The polls are now open for the First and Second Annual Immie Awards. Nominations
and comments may be posted or submitted to the Editor for categories including,
but by no means limited to: Best Episode, Best Quickening Scene, Best Guest
Immortal, Worst Guest Immortal, Best Death, Best Wenching Scene, Best Sword,
Best Fight Scene, and so on. Please note that Season One and Season Two are
being considered separately; you may vote in a category once for each season.
The results will be collected in THE PRIZE later this summer, should we all live
so long.
Thanks to Kim Crawford, who points out an omission in last month's glossary of
CIS HIGHLANDER terms: the infamous YAHOOIE -- Yet Another Highlander Odd
Occurance, In Extremis.
And for untiring service in the pursuit of questions great and small, the
Goddess hereby awards Claude the title of Grand Inquisitor. May you never be
visited by the Kurgan quoting Dostoevsky.
As we've been languishing in mid-season reruns, our minds have turned,
naturally, to violence, gore, and death. First up this time out is a warm and
hearty conversation on the subject of what an immortal experiences upon taking
the big fall, however temporarily.
Next, a log of the times and ways Duncan has met his end, and dealt others
theirs.
And a few miscellaneous grues, just to warm those winter-chilled cockles of our
evil little hearts...
Mike Chelucci Has A Dreadful on the subject of Duncan's theoretical defeat --
what if they *didn't* take his head...?
So long as we're in the mood for blood, Barb Galler-Smith injects a word on the
meaning of heads.
"Here comes a candle to light you to bed/ here comes a chopper to chop off your
head" -- there is a long-standing legend that the head of Mary Queen of Scots
continued to move its lips for nearly a minute after the headsman's axe had done
its work. History does not record whether he received a Quickening.
I know, I know, this would make a better halloween issue than the bright month
of May; I'm not sure if I'm running ahead or behind. But who wants to be normal?
-- Samantha Lynn, 73524,43
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BEYOND THE VEIL
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The nature of the Game being what it is, there are a lot of rip-roarers yet to
be asked. Here's a discussion of one of them:
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C B-K -- What do Immortals experience when they "die," albeit temporarily?
Their life (lives) flashing before their eyes? Darkness? Disappearance of
consciousness, like going under general anesthesia?
SL -- I'd be inclined to say "blackout". There's so much to do, after all, to
fix the damage, who's got anything left over to run consciousness out of? So I
would imagine the sensation of reviving would be something like coming out of
sleep; "Oh, hell, who am I, what died in my mouth? -- died, that sounds
important... Oh, right, *now* I remember..."
I kind of doubt there's much memory of dying. Gregor did say "I always forget
how much it hurts", but the pain does occur in the last few moments of "life".
Like when you fall asleep despite trying to stay awake: all of a sudden you're
going, "hey, I was asleep for a moment, wasn't I" -- but you're not, actually,
aware of *falling* asleep; only of *having fallen* asleep.
Now, the slow, icky deaths might be another matter. We generally see immies
getting shot or tossed off heights, but we've also seen Duncan hung (INNOCENT
MAN) and drowned (THE SEA WITCH, THE ZONE). [And I might interject here, what a
hell of a way to go through the years, ain't it. <G>] Given that "lingering"
deaths might give one a few moments more to reflect upon one's predicament, I'm
not sure what kind of an impression they would leave upon "awakening".
O'B -- The first time it happens I'd speculate it would be as close to death as
possible and whatever that entails. (Sorry, not one of the white light crowd.)
After that it might well be more like just going unconscious. Apparently the
brain isn't affected so all those wonderful delusions from chemo-electrical
activity winding down shouldn't happen.
I'm not even sure the term "die" can be applied to anything but the last fatal
blow to the neck. Anything below that in severity and I'd hazard a guess that
what happens is the body goes into a traumatic shock state that shuts down
functions to minimum levels while it regenerates damaged areas. (Much like we
boost production of adrenalin and blood clotting agents to increase our ability
to flee the danger and temporarily inhibit bleeding if necessary.)
SL -- <<Apparently the brain isn't affected>>
...Um, not affected in what sense? I'm thinking of DEADLY MEDICINE, where Duncan
was hit by a car; the emergency room team mentioned some pretty grody brain
damage. Yet eventually he was whole again...
"Would you believe me if I said it was magic?" Oh, probably.
O'B -- It would have to be, without some pretty hefty assumptions. Regenerated
brain cells would be the ever popular "tabula rasa" of fame and fiction. If the
brain "dies" (it's deprived of oxygen, blood, or some immie sustaining nutrient-
enzyme), even though the cells will regenerate, Duncan might be nothing more
than a Broccoli until he re-learns everything again.
Of course, that leaves open speculation as to how his brain retains information
if the body functions are shut down.
SR -- [From the film:] In the First Death scene, [Connor] looked, well, dead.
The other times he is dealt death-blows (Boston Commons, Brenda & the knife,
falling through the skylight with the Kurgan) he gets right up. There was pain
associated with the knife wound.
[BUT, it was pointed out, the film and the series "officially" take place in
different universes. Evidently, one of the differences is that it's only in the
series that immies actually die-and-revive. -- SL]
[C B-K: Cathryn Bauer-Kahn; O'B: Bill O'Brien; SL: Samantha Lynn; SR: Sheri
Richardson]
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DUNCAN'S IMMIE JOURNAL
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"Dear Diary: today I got shot again. 9mm, my favorite..." Here's a log of the
Quickenings Duncan's taken and the deaths he's died doing it.
Q = Quickening D = died () = in flashback
Season 1:
01 The Gathering : Q - Slan Quince
02 Family Tree : (D) - (stabbed)
03 The Road Not Taken
04 Innocent Man : (D),Q - (hung), Crowley
05 Free Fall
06 Bad Day In Building A : D - shot
07 Mountain Men : D,Q - fell, Caleb
08 Deadly Medicine : D - run over
09 The Sea Witch : (D),Q - (drowned), Alexei Voshin
10 Revenge Is Sweet : Q - Walter Reinhardt
11 See No Evil : (Q) - (Marcus Korolus)
12 Eyewitness : Q - Andrew Ballin
13 Band Of Brothers : Q - Grayson
14 For Evil's Sake : Q - Kuyler
15 For Tomorrow We Die : (D) - (poisoned)
16 The Beast Below
17 Saving Grace : Q - Carlo Sendaro
18 The Lady And The Tiger
19 Avenging Angel : Q - Alfred Cahill
20 Eye Of The Beholder : Q - Gabriel Piton
21 Nowhere To Run : D - shot
22 The Hunters
Season 2:
23 The Watchers : D - shot
24 Studies In Light
25 Turnabout : Q - Michael Moore
26 The Darkness
27 Eye For An Eye
28 The Zone : D - drowned
29 The Return of Amanda : D - shot
30 Revenge of the Sword
31 Run For Your Life : (D) - (shot)
32 Epitaph For Tommy : D,Q - fell, Anthony Galen
33 Bless The Child
34 The Fighter : Q - Thomas Sullivan
35 Under Color Of Authority
36 Unholy Alliance I : D - shot
37 Unholy Alliance II : Q - Xavier St. Cloud
38 The Vampire : Q - Nicholas Ward
39 Warmonger : Q - Drake
40 Pharaoh's Daughter : Q - Nefertiri
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GRUES R US
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With nothing better to do while the reruns dragged on to the bitter end, we
spent the better part of April picking at old scabs...
KC -- You want gruesome!... OOOhhhoo, I got yer gruesome:
1) do immies bleed at the neck after beheading, or do it get cauterized
by the majic swords?
2) where da bodies go?? The movie had the departed immie's bod floating
up and shimmering. Where did it float to? Did it just keep going
up higher into the ozone? (maybe it went to the same place the
dead Germans went on RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK).
3) Anybody remember when Xavier got his hand cut off, did it bleed?
4) an observation... immies *do* bleed, we see a lot of that with Duncan
and the Kurgan (his throat), and Connor, and... well... with all of
them. I just don't remember seeing a lot of blood from a beheading.
Anybody?
5) and about scarring... I think we have agreed that scarring occurs
with wounds above the neck, but not below. Ergo: the Kurgan's
neck wif safety pins, Mako's eye scar... etc. BUT... Xavier's hand
dinna grow back... yet. Did we agree that maybe regeneration is
MUCH slower if the severed part is not attached? If at all?
I teach biology and physiology and anatomy..(among some other ologies), so I
worry about those "little things" like... no blood. Where da blood go? where
the bodies go? and most importantly... who cleans up the messes after the
Quickenings??? Some of those have been a REAL janitor's nightmare. Just
witness the parking garage in the movie... much destruction. How would one
explain exploded hoods and tires and windows and headlights? Bummer.
The soundtrack in the Kurgan's theme -- GIMMIE THE PRIZE -- has the female news
radio reporter saying they've found "a man's decapitated body lying on the floor
next to his own severed head". So the bod stayed.
BUT!!! Each Quickening we actually SAW in the movie had the body doing the
"shimmery" thing and then lifting upwards in slow motion. So, what does this
mean? I don't know... maybe the dramatic effect is more important than
consistency.
[I still say the trunk of the T-Bird's getting crowded. -SL]
HP -- Gruesome?
Beheading: It's instantly fatal, so maybe there's no pressure when the heart
stops pumping...
Xavier's hand: I don't think we saw blood, but Duncan said he'd found some when
he got back the next morning.
Scarring: I think we also agreed that scars acquired before First Death remain
as they were.
MH -- <<Beheading: It's instantly fatal, so maybe there's no pressure when the
heart stops pumping.>>
Instantly fatal, yes, but the heart continues to pump for a while - about half a
minute, I think. Oh, and another little tidbit of info: beheading (and hanging)
causes an immediate erection and ejaculation in men. Kinda like nature saying,
"This is your last chance, bud, better have that family NOW!" <G>
[During the French Revolution householders near the Place De La Revolution
eventually plucked up the courage to complain about their new neighbor: it seems
that the blood generated by the activity of the guillotine was beginning to
stink up the entire neighborhood as it lay uncollected in the terrible heat of
that summer... -SL]
[It was noted also that a certain amount of gore attended the body of the
luckless Iman Fasil, whom Connor took in the garage at Madison Square Garden at
the outset of the movie. -SL]
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KC -- Ok...lemme jump into this thread riiiiiight abouuuutt....HERE!
I just saw RETURN OF AMANDA tonight for the first time all the way thru (just
saw the ending last time). I've been doing some random pondering about some of
the things I saw there. Please allow me to expound:
1) Why for does Duncan seem to be the only immie who can swim while wounded?
He had to pull Connor out of the drink when he (Connor) couldn't seem to
separate himself from his knife. (Connor couldn't pull the knife out himself?
That has always bugged me a bit). Duncan had to pull Amanda out as she couldn't
seem to swim while mostly dead. OK... maybe Duncan just revived faster. But
they were shot at almost the exact same time. Does that mean that some immies
just heal faster (Duncan being one of those)?
2) What do yall think *would* happen if an immie took a bullet to the head? Not
a shotgun... just, say... a .38 or a .22? If we've come to think wounds above
the neck don't heal, but just leave scars... then... EWWW!
O'B -- If you remember from THE movie, Connor can't swim. He does a good walk,
but that's about it.
Duncan's been wounded or killed at least once a week for the last 26 weeks. Of
course he'd have learned to heal faster. I doubt Amanda has died more than once
or twice. (She just didn't seem the type -- she was worried about the Nazis
killing her!) More of a shock to the system.
KC -- <<Connor can't swim... does a good walk, tho>>
...ok... good point. But couldn't he have pulled out the knife? I've been
meaning to ask about that one. OK... he was not able while he was mostly dead,
but when he came to underwater... that musta hurt when he walked! (if he
walked)
<<Duncan's been killed about once a week for the last 26 weeks>>
Yup... I noticed that too. He has had a lot of experience with it. Course,
Connor got killed 26 times in one duel! It hurts, I'm sure, which as you say
would explain Amanda's reluctance due to her inexperience with it. OK... works
for me. :)
SR -- <<Course, Connor got killed 26 times in one duel!>>
SIX! Only SIX times! <looking heavenward for strength> ;)
O'B -- Well, if you were dumped into a river in an urban environment and there
was a knife sticking in your vitals keeping the blood (mostly) in and the water
(ditto) out, would you remove it?
I've got the Hudson and East rivers here. No way....<gg>
HP: << Why for does Duncan seem to be the only immie who can swim while
wounded? >>
Give Our Lad a little credit - he's TOUGH! Slan's jet-propelled knife did
Connor serious damage that probably couldn't heal as long as the knife was still
in place. Let's say that since a bullet is smaller, the effects are repaired
faster. As for Amanda, I got the impression that she had never "died" as part
of a scam before. (Considering her penchant for scamming, that surprises me,
but it didn't seem to surprise Duncan.)
CLAUDE -- Actually, I think her [Amanda's] reluctance was more for the fact that
getting shot would *HURT*! Never mind if it heals or not, it would still
*HURT*...
"I am about to die, but I will come back. Won't I? It's always happened before,
why should it stop now, maybe there is a limit. After 9 times it stops working,
no that's nonsense, of course so is coming back from the dead. What if I don't
come back, Oh No! Stop wait a minute, I changed my mind (*B*A*N*G*)!
... It work again! phew!..."
[A theory was also advanced that Amanda was *acting* scared for the benefit of
Richie's taping. -SL]
SL -- <<2) What do yall think *would* happen if an immie took a bullet to the
head? Not a shotgun... just, say... a .38 or a .22? If we've come to think
wounds above the neck don't heal, but just leave scars... then... EWWW!>>
Hmm... you're right, and we may need to do some thinking about that scar-theory;
Duncan got shot in the back of the head in BAD DAY IN BUILDING A (one o' my
favorites), and one would tend to think that could mess up his looks a tad, if
there *is* a problem with above-the-neck healing.
Snap theory: it's only superficial ATN wounds that may stay. A wound severe
enough to cause death would cause the full immie regenerative powers to kick in.
HP -- << What do yall think *would* happen if an immie took a bullet to the
head? >>
We can't have anything like that spoiling Our Lad's looks, now, can we? The
Kurgan's neck scarred in the Movie (courtesy of Ramirez), but The Series is in
an "alternate universe", so that doesn't have to carry over. I suspect a head
injury in The Series would heal just like any other wound.
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And this late-breaking Grue, from PHARAOH'S DAUGHTER:
RG -- OK, here's something that took awhile to occur to me.
From what I used to know about Egyptian mummification procedures they removed
the major organs (including the brain) from the body and placed them in jars in
the tomb. The body cavity was then filled with flowers. (why? I don't remember.)
Nefertiri was obviously immortal before her suicide. The question is...
If you remove an immie's brain... is that equal to taking their head?
obviously not in Nefertiri's case IF she was mummified according to procedure.
KC -- Hmmm... Robert... You raise some good points. If I ever actually *see*
that episode, I'm sure I would have wondered about mummification too. I hadn't
gleaned from reading the threads that she had been mummified. If so, then the
process you described would REALLY throw a 2000 year old monkey wrench into the
fray. The brain is removed (thru the nose, if I remember right) and the body
spiced up, so to speak. Considering the desert, and the sore lack of ice in
them days, this proceedure would be necessary as some sort of ancient embalming.
Soooo... as you propose... can an immie regenerate a brain? Does that mean she
was "brainless" when she fought Duncan? (g).
Or, is this one of those liddle reality attacks we get from time to time around
here. Bet the writers and other assorted tv people HATE this sort of inquiry.
:)
Don't lose your head!... or brain!
O'B -- Might be wrong (it's been a LONG time since Ancient Egyptology A0001) but
I don't believe servants were embalmed as a matter of course. There's room for
doubt one way or the other when it's the Queen's Handmaiden but I'd suspect the
writers could make a case for a servant being a servant (slave?).
RG -- The more I thought about it, I remembered that the servants (household and
otherwise) were usually entombed with the one being mummified. I think they were
sealed in the tomb alive so that they could serve their master/mistress in the
afterlife. Not even a bad wrap to keep them warm (sniff... sniff).
Any Egyptologist out there care to confirm or blast my recollect??
OG -- I think they only did the complete mummification process on the
rulers/rich. I think the servants were just bandaged up. Anyone? Whoever
bandaged Nefertiri up did not get their Scouts badge, very poor technique.
O'B -- Actually, I thought the servants got their legs broken and were stuffed
in a jar but that might be from somewhere way out in left field. Might also be
household rank as well.
OG -- I know that's what we did with our old servants but I didn't know that was
common practice in Egypt.
[Among other gruesome points that have been raised: was Xavier St. Cloud's hook
attatched so awkwardly perhaps because there was a new hand growing beneath it?
And if immies do therefore have the ability to regenerate severed extremities,
however slowly... might the hand, starfish-like, be growing a new Xavier? -SL]
[KC: Kim Crawford; O'B: Bill O'Brien; MH: Martin Higgins; SR: Sheri Richardson;
HP: Helva Peters; SL: Samantha Lynn; RG: Robert Green; OG -- Olivia Gaffney]
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"ANOTHER TIME, HIGHLANDER!"
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MIKE CHELUCCI muses upon the thought of how Duncan might react to a superior
fighter leaving him for "dead" rather than taking the Quickening:
I think having Duncan lose would not only create a spectacular single episode,
one that would cause many subtle changes in future shows, but would give us
another "super" character in the world for the writers to occasionally call
forth, and change the tone of all shows written from that point on.
Duncan, as well as other immortals, would *know* that there is someone out
there... somewhere... who can kill any of them, at will, if he or she *chooses*.
Perhaps all immortals would prize each other's company a bit more, spend less
time solo, make more friends, and in general prize life more strongly.
There are so many possible reactions that Duncan could be written as having
after being defeated legitimately, not through luck or a fluke. Would he be
crushed? Would he lose confidence? Would he think twice from then on about the
duels? Whenever he *feels* an immortal in his area... would he think of *that*
immortal? Would he become overprotective of his human friends? Would he distance
himself from humans knowing that he cannot protect them completely any longer?
Would he live on holy ground? Would he spend 12 hrs a day training with his
sword?
When the realization sinks in that no matter what, he will never be quite as
skilled as this awesome talented weaponmaster... can he accept it gracefully?
Can he even become *friends* with someone who has beaten him... or will that
test his "sterling [moral] character" a bit *too* much?
Besides... having the rumors spread... and making *all* immortals a bit wary and
afraid... that sounds like a hoot!<g>
["I would as soon destroy Da Vinci. However, since I can't have you following
me..." *clonk*. -SL]
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BARB GALLER-SMITH on the taking of heads:
You need to understand that head-taking is an ancient, mystical rite in itself.
The Celts took heads, some think they worshipped them. They often carried the
heads of their enemies with them -- a sign of great respect. The head was the
seat of the soul... a noble thing. To display it to the crows on a pike was the
height of insult. Head takers just don't have the same "sensitivity" to the act
we do. The Italians thought it barbaric because the Romans didn't do it. But
many early Europeans did. France was Gaul -- a celtic land. And France still
has a guillotine, considered a humane form of execution. (I won't start with
other cultures).
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY ADRIAN PAUL!
MAY 29
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Helva Peters reminds new Watchers:
"'Highlander Two: The Sickening' was the nightmare that cured Connor of eating
haggis."
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THE UNCLASSIFIED ADS
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ALL HIGHLANDER FILES possessed by this forum have been moved into SF & Fantasy
Library #12, "HIGHLANDER". New uploads should be directed to this section.
From the Goddess's Metaphorical Bookshelf: DIFFERENT DRUMMER, November 1993
issue -- a QUANTUM LEAP "Leapover" fan-fic 'zine featuring "The Highwayman Came
Riding, Riding" : Sam Leaps into Duncan in 1970. Inquiries to MacWombat Press,
c/o Lucy Green, 2500 Jackson-Keller, Apt. 601, San Antonio, TX 78230
Allegedly Upcoming on Laserdisc: HIGHLANDER II: THE QUICKENING -- The Renegade
Version. Includes footage not seen in the original release, and all references
to Zeist have been expunged...
HIGHLANDER III: THE MAGICIAN is now projected for a September, 1994 release.
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The 1st EVER Official HIGHLANDER Convention.
Date: October 7, 8 and 9
The Regency Hotel, Denver, CO
Guests:
Adrian Paul, Stan Kirsch and Bill Panzer (Exec. Producer).
For info, send SASE to: The Gathering
PO Box 123
Aurora, CO 80040-0123
or, call: Krystmas Tarr (303) 363-1792
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FINE PRINT
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THE PRIZE is a house organ of the Watchers Of CIS. We are not funded by anybody
or sanctioned by anybody. If we get in trouble, I'm changing my name and moving
to Milton Keynes.
The Watchers of CIS are a floating pool of HIGHLANDER fans on the Compuserve
Information Service. We make no claims to official status or knowledge, but we
know what we like.
We hereby absolve Compuserve Information Services of all blame for the content
of this newsletter.
THE PRIZE may be freely distributed in hardcopy form ONLY across the seven seas
of space so long as no alterations are made to the text thereof, save any
required translations into languages other than the original American English.
Any violations of this caveat will result in the wrath of the Goddess and more
importantly the wrath of CIS, so please don't spoil our fun.
The Watchers of CIS exist on the Compuserve Information Service. For info on the
network and the SF Forum (where the HIGHLANDER message-board section is), call
1-800-848-8990 and ask for representative 186.
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Here are the addresses that will accept mail for the series:
Rysher TPE, 3400 Riverside Drive, Suite 600, Burbank, CA 91505
Please write Keith Samples at this address to express your support for the show.
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This is the address for fan mail to the actors.
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This issue's contributors:
CATHRYN BAUER-KAHN - 72734,1403
BILL O'BRIEN - 72241,765
SHERI RICHARDSON - 70703,2746
KIM CRAWFORD - 75230,2250
HELVA PETERS - 71321,502
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CLAUDE - 75000,324
ROBERT GREEN - 72652,1571
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MIKE CHELUCCI - 71271,2323
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and myself, the eternal Goddess Samantha.
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HIGHLANDER, for those of you just tuning in (the rest of you could skip this
bit), is a television series based somewhat loosely upon a film of the same
name, concerning a man from 1500's Scotland who discovers that he is immortal,
and cannot die. There are others like him, he finds, and they are engaged in a
fight to the last immortal, for the power of the Prize. In the end, there can
be only one.
The movie and the series diverge at this point: in the film, our man is Connor
MacLeod (Christopher Lambert), and he lives at the time of the last days, the
Gathering, when all the remaining immortals are coming together for the fight to
the death.
In the series, however, our immortal hero is Duncan MacLeod (Adrian Paul)--
"Same clan, different vintage" -- and the Gathering is not yet at hand. Duncan's
task is to keep his head from week to week.
For that is the only way to slay an immortal. From any wound but one, even unto
death, they will recover -- but "if your head comes away from your neck, it's
over." So says Connor's immortal mentor, Ramirez (Sean Connery).
-- THE PRIZE, Issue #1
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